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Re: [QF-Test] An idea

  • Subject: Re: [QF-Test] An idea
  • From: Gregor Schmid <Gregor.Schmid@?.de>
  • Date: 20 May 2007 21:57:53 +0200

Hello Hans,

I considered the same thing 7 years ago (or is it 8 years now?) when
starting to develop QF-Test and decided against it.

QF-Test is not primarily targeted at programmers, but at testers. The
aim is to be able to create tests without being forced to program at
Java or script level.

Of course you are right that good test automation requires something
akin to programming, that's why QF-Test has lots of control
structures. It's also the reason for embedding a scripting language -
of course the tree structure pseudo language is quite limited and the
scripts enable users to do just about anything they cannot do directly
with QF-Test.

What you're overlooking is that testing is also a lot about data.
Lot's of data. How would you manage all the component information in
plain Java? What about all the event and check data? Besides, Java is
a very verbose language. It would be quite a bit an effort to maintain
tests at that level.

So, thanks for bringing this up, but I'm afraid the answer is going to
remain "no" for now. Maybe at some point we'll open a testing API
which enables users to do everything at Java level, but not anytime

Best regards,

Hans Schwaebli <hans_schwaebli@?.com> writes:

>    The more I write GUI tests, the more it is completely like programming
>    to me.
>    QF Test has a kind of IDE. But of course it has not the power of the
>    best IDEs for programming languages. It's "programming language" is
>    mainly graphical.
>    I imagine this: QF Test records the stuff optionally into a Java
>    class. Then the class can be edited with the full power of Java and
>    IDE's like Eclipse. It would be similiar like the word macros. Behind
>    the scenes you have the full power of a programming language and IDE
>    (in that case Visual Basic editor und VBA).
>    Of course this turns the concept upside down. I don't really think you
>    to really get on this track. But currently I feel that this way it
>    would be even more productive to write GUI tests.
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